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Downtown Turnaround: Making a connection


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Editor's Note: In a series of "Downtown Turnaround" editorials, the Herald is offering ideas to improve downtown Chaska. Join the discussion by posting your own comments or e-mailing editor@chaskaherald.com. This editorial was first published in the March 4 print edition of the Chaska Herald.

Downtown Chaska is looking more like a ghost town every day. No tumbleweeds have been spotted yet, but it’s just a matter of time. (Perhaps a “For Sale” or “For Rent” sign shop should open on Chestnut Street.)

Of course downtown isn’t alone. As noted in a Feb. 8 Herald article, vacant storefronts abound – throughout Chaska and the metro. The problem is that even when the economy was gangbusters, downtown was still plodding along – at best.

The chamber’s local business council issued its own downtown report last year, and now a city consultant is studying the issue.

The Herald is adding some more ideas to improve downtown Chaska in a series of “Downtown turnaround” editorials. We’ll start this week, with one of the greatest issues facing downtown: connections.

Sometimes it seems like someone took a cleaver to downtown. The divisions are both physical and psychological.

A few projects, such as street reconstruction and retail development, should bubble up in the next decade, offering chances to create better downtown connections. The key is not to miss these opportunities when they arise.

Highway 41: This important road separates east and west downtown. Finally, a stoplight is in the works for Second Street. This should help create some pedestrian and traffic flow along Second Street – one of the most vibrant downtown streets.

The city could also expand its use of banners along Highway 41, between downtown to Highway 212 – creating visual clues to come downtown, and turning the highway into a connection rather than a division.

Highway 212: Improved signage directing commuters from Highway 212 to “Historical Downtown Chaska” would help.

The city dropped the ball when it didn’t push for a simple exit to downtown Chaska for eastbound Highway 212 drivers. Instead, entering downtown Chaska requires a couple minutes and navigating a three-point turn at the Jonathan Carver Parkway exit – just enough to deter a commuter from making a quick stop in downtown.

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Hopefully the city is successful in its attempts to add an exit at County Road 140, when it develops its Biotech Center. This would be another important exit for accessing downtown.

Walking/bike trails: This issue has the most potential. Chaska shouldn’t expect to become another Lanesboro, with trails as a major tourist attraction, but every little bit helps. And considering how great the trail connections are throughout the rest of Chaska, downtown leaves a lot to be desired.

The recent Commitment to Community Task Force recently made a push for improving some of these connections.

* Add a trail from First Street to the Highway 41 bridge. We’ve been waiting and waiting for The Landing and the adjoining sidewalk to be built. Who knows when that will happen? Meanwhile, the city could add a simple asphalt or gravel trail so downtown bikers and walkers can easily access the river trail to Shakopee.

* Install signs to better connect the Minnesota River Bluffs Regional LRT Trail, starting in Hopkins, with Chaska. This trail ends abruptly at Highway 212 in Chanhassen, where bikers need to follow County Road 61 to hook up with Chaska trails. There needs to be better signs for bikers, and possibly new trails or bike lanes.

* Continue pushing for the United Pacific line trail between Carver and Chaska – now in negotiation limbo.

Business connections: The city should ensure easy connections for pedestrians attempting to reach businesses, such as Cooper’s and Walgreens, on the north side of County Road 61. This has been a frequent complaint over the years – especially for those who live in senior housing.

Any future development on the north side of County Road 61 needs to be easily accessible by vehicles, as well as bikers and pedestrians.

Handicapped accessibility: As reported in a December article, some residents have trouble navigating Chaska’s streets with wheelchairs, with irregular pavement and steep curb cuts. Chaska officials said they will take care of the issue with future street reconstruction, but it’s something to keep an eye on.




Great assessment of the...

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Great assessment of the issues. I am a member of the Chaska Downtown Master Plan Task Force Group. During our February meeting we introduced ourselves, discussed the process, and talked about what we liked and did not like about downtown Chaska. Personally, I like the historical features. I dislike some of the buildings that have replaced old buildings in downtown Chaska. The block containing the post office comes to mind. This block used to contain the Carver County Courthouse and I believe the Chaska City Hall. While the buildings are ok, they are different from other nearby buildings, i.e. height, design, and materials.

Please feel free to share your opinions about downtown. I am certain some of the other task force members will also read your opinions. What do you like about downtown Chaska? What do you dislike about downtown Chaska? Why?


Submitted by Debbie Boe on March 6, 2010 - 9:24am.

Instead of talking about how...

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Instead of talking about how the buildings look and historical features why doesn't this taskforce figure out how our businesses can thrive in Chaska and how can we attract new businesses and jobs.

If this is what this group is going to focus upon they might as well disband.

This taskforce should be meeting every week until we see some progress on revitalizing our downtown.

Get to work before our downtown dies!


Submitted by On-Topic on March 6, 2010 - 10:42am.

The historical comments I...

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The historical comments I mention are my own. Other members had other comments and have their own particular interests.

Other than meeting every week, what other suggestions do you have? The statement about figuting out 'how our busineses can thrive in Chaska and how can we attract new businesses and jobs' is pretty broad, not to mention the goal of every town. Do you have any actionable suggestions? How might this be attempted or achieved?

And by the way what do you like and dislike about downtown Chaska? Just curious.


Submitted by Debbie Boe on March 6, 2010 - 12:28pm.

What are the current...

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What are the current incentives for businesses to be located downtown? (Featured on the internet somewhere, help with store planning, discounted rental rates based on sales?) Are there different incentives for different types of businesses to attract more target businesses?

Currently, the neighbors you would gain include second hand stores, chiropractors and insurance agents. Not exactly foot traffic/window shopper drivers for a retail environment. And not the most ideal from a client meeting standpoint.

The traffic being driven currently is either individuals who are probably not going to spend much money or individuals headed in for an appointment and leaving once they're done. Are there any incentives that can be given to stores that are currently driving traffic and thriving to move to a more visible location on 41? When people see others going in and out of a place it drives curiosity.

Is downtown looking to become a business focused destination or a retail focused destination? If foot traffic is the goal then it seems it would need to be a retail focused area. And if that's the case then it needs to be a pleasant window shopping experience during the summer and still easy to navigate and get to the stores in the winter with easy to find parking. It's great that the buildings themselves are getting a facelift, but what's in those buildings needs to be appealing too. Perhaps part of the responsibility with being a downtown retailer means that the storefront displays have to be kept to a certain set of standards. Any signage/display appearing in the windows should be approved first, no displays on the sidewalks, no handwritten/paper signs in the windows, no florescent signage etc.

How do the people find out about what's downtown? The current "Shop Downtown Chaska" web page is currently very dated looking and doesn't give any quality information on what the stores are. Going to a page like that would make me decide not to go there. My first thought was, 'the city obviously doesn't care to give these places a decent listing, so why should I go?' It'd be great if it worked more like a directory sorted by category, then once a business is clicked you see a location map, a description, phone number and any images of what kinds of products that store offers. Comments from shoppers or recommendations. Or even a downtown map with the stores and parking marked. Can the "shopping district" of downtown Chaska have it's own website? Can it look like a higher end mall website? Placing a quality look around the way people find out what's available for shopping will give viewers the impression that the shopping is quality as well. Keeping the site updated with current shops would allow the public to keep up with what's still opened as well. Shops could advertise their specials/special events.


Submitted by tanyaswan on March 8, 2010 - 11:52am.

I am a 16 year resident of...

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I am a 16 year resident of Chaska, have co-owned a gift & home decor boutique in historic downtown for the last five years, have been a member of the Chaska Downtown Business Council since its inception and have been one of the primary organizers over the last 3 years in a separate grass roots effort by downtown merchants to sponsor four annual events designed to draw attention to what we have to offer.

Artist Sara Hanlon(Mill House Gallery & Gifts) created a logo and designed a brochure listing those retail businesses willing to share the cost of printing. The brochure includes a map showing shop locations and identifies parking. The logo is used in newspaper advertising and flyers promoting our events and window signs and reusuable bags promoting local shopping. Dan Keyport (Dolce Vita Wine Shop) volunteered to create the website www.shopdowntownchaska.org that would duplicate and update the information contained in the brochure.

That website has been used to publicize the 19 page historic downtown revitalization recommendations produced by the Downtown Business Council (click on link under the logo). The City of Chaska also recently installed a link (Shop Downtown Chaska) from their website to ours as their way to make these recommendations public. There is no doubt that a "sustainable, professionally directed and comprehensive" marketing plan that is appropriately funded is required, and is included on page 15 of the Downtown Business Council's recommendations along with many specific suggestions. Understanding what products and services should be offered, identifying what activities will bring people downtown, and articulating the right physical environment and image should all be part of such a marketing plan developed in the downtown master planning process as outlined by Tasks #2 and #5.

Those of us who are trying to survive (let alone thrive) in the current climate have attempted what was within our means in order to be "part of the solution" until a vision and master plan for downtown are formally adopted and implemented. Those wishing to understand the scope and timeline of the downtown master planning process can access the consulting firm's 10 page letter of proposal at www.chaskamn.com under City Council, Staff Reports, 10-19-09, Item #10. I am anxious to hear about the progress being made on the extensive tasks arranged in chronological order that have been identified in that document and look forward to any other opportunities to provide feedback.


Submitted by Donna Lund on March 12, 2010 - 5:48pm.

I grew up in Chaska, I still...

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I grew up in Chaska, I still work in the Chaska area and I have seen the changes that have taken place in the place 20+ years. I remember when the Mix used to be Embers and J's before that. I remember fish fry's and live music and Butch's and parades down Walnut Street. Now however, there is nothing that is preventing downtown from moving north. On-Topic, Tanyaaswan, and Debbie all have valid points; there are no incentives for businesses (retail or professional) to locate downtown. Upgrading our walking paths and biking paths will not help save or preserve our downtown. Sure reconnecting the old bike path to the Louisville Swamps trials will help bring outdoor enthusiasts back to the area but what will keep them.

Chaska needs to support its locally owned businesses. For example the City of Northfield holds an annual winter walk where they close off Main Street for one night from 5 till 9. My wife and I attend this festivity and love it. All the business remain open and some give out free hot chocolate, kids sell popcorn and chex mix as a fundraiser; a local man gives sleigh rides; local bars have special meals; volunteers dress up; all in all it is a great night for businesses and residents a like. Understandably, Chaska is not suitable for something like that because shutting down Hwy 41 is not plausible but the point is Northfield does that for the local businesses. The City of Bemidji is building its state of the art Hockey Complex on the opposite side of the Lake Bemidji because it will encourage students, residents and visitors a like to drive through downtown. While the Taste of Chaska is great it really does not encourage people to actually walk around downtown. They park somewhere convenient, walk to the City Square Park and that is it.

I am not sure what the solution is or what it will take to save downtown but I feel it is going to take more than just building sidewalk and paths. We need to show local business owners that they are wanted in the downtown area.


Submitted by Johnnie on March 9, 2010 - 1:15pm.

Thanks for all your...

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Thanks for all your comments. We'll be publishing a few more "Downtown Turnaround" editorials over the upcoming weeks.

A few points and follow-up questions for expansion:

* History is definitely one of downtown's strengths, as noted by Debbie's suggestion about the importance of sensitivity to historic design. Are there other ways Chaska can capitalize on its history regarding downtown?

* On-Topic -- what are some of your suggestions for attracting businesses and jobs?

* Tanya, I thought you brought up some strong points -- notably downtown's identity crisis, which is something the city has grappled with for years. That is (if I understand you correctly): Is downtown for service industries (insurance, realty, etc.) or retail (small shops, restaurants) or both? I also thought you had good points regardling online marketing. Does anyone have any other ideas on how downtown businesses, and the downtown business district, could market themselves better online?

* Johnnie had a few good points: The importance of downtown events to bring attention to the area; and the concept of creating destination points (ala the hockey complex) with downtown in mind. Does anyone have suggestions of what Chaska businesses, residents and government could do in these two areas?

Thanks again for your suggestions. Downtown really needs to be a community discussion and a community effort, and the feedback is terrific.


Submitted by Mark Olson on March 10, 2010 - 10:42am.

Ran across this blog entry...

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Ran across this blog entry from Greg Swan. It was written in response to the Downtown Turnaround editorial series: http://gregswan.net/2010/03/09/chaska-needs-a-clear-brand-and-an-actiona...

(Mollee Francisco is a staff writer for the Chaska Herald. She can be reached at mfrancisco@swpub.com.)


Submitted by Mollee Francisco on March 10, 2010 - 11:20am.

Greg makes a good point,...

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Greg makes a good point, which expands on the identity crisis comment brought up earlier. He argues: "[Chaska's] brand is disjointed, contradictory and sometimes counter intuitive."

I'd recommend that residents give his blog a read.

Since Greg is a member of the Downtown Task Force, I'm sure it will be part of the discussion.


Submitted by Mark Olson on March 10, 2010 - 3:49pm.

Fireman's Park is not being...

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Fireman's Park is not being utilized to it's full potential. The location is pretty high profile with Hwy 41 running along it's East. While the playground equipment is cute being all fireman themed, functionally it is one of the worst parks in the city, small neighborhood parks included. The playground excludes most small children from play because the only way to access the majority of the equipment is though the climbing of a ladder, a skill that small children lack. The swings at Fireman's park also are lacking and need to be replaced and expanded. Cosmetically, the equipment is sun-faded, not a big deal but doesn't add to the appeal.

I think Fireman's Park should be the crown jewel of the Chaska parks system given it's location, swimming, fishing, shelter and family area. Playground wise, Lions park is more utilized. If you go to Lions park on virtually any summer day, there will be kids and families who come and go from that park all day long. I think if Fireman's park had superior playground equipment to Lions park, then it would attract some of those from Lions. Additionally, I think if the park was unique such as Skyland play area at Cliff Fen Park in Burnsville, Chutes and Ladders at Hyland play area, or the monstrous Millennium Park in Lake Charles, LA, then there would be more of a area draw, or at least people stopping off of Hwy 41 to take a look.

Winter time the park is largely ignored. Perhaps a large ice rink could be constructed similar to what the City of Minneapolis does at various parks such as Van Cleve park. This move would perhaps draw away from Lions park ice rinks and a decision may need to be made if both spots are to be kept open.

Downtown needs things that make people want to go downtown because they can only get it from downtown. A unique park I think helps.


Submitted by rhagelstrom on March 10, 2010 - 4:58pm.

I like your ideas on making...

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I like your ideas on making Firemen's Park more of a destination for families.

How would you factor/tie in the planned future retaurant development at the corner of 41/61 with the nearby park development?

Some have floated the idea of using the corner as a park, rather than retail expansion. (I don't have the estimated cost, but I know it would result in a HUGE bill.) Do you think Chaskans would go for that idea?

Also, is there anything different you would do with the beach?


Submitted by Mark Olson on March 11, 2010 - 10:20am.

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